Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4556650-20130709120716/@comment-3544775-20130710105406

Have I tried to deny it? But you are trying to make it look that here is all perfect, when if fact, it is not. Yes you could find volume cover, chapter cover and other in the middle of the manga gallery, that is because most of the pics are added chronologically and not separated in 50 different things (because if it follow here's formula, considering the anime, marchendise, manga, ova, movie, etc, there will be way to many things, see the tabber when you have 250 chapters, 100+ episodes and all sort of other things). When you want new image, you go down, when you want older image, you look more up. So you can very easy see what are the new images of the gallery and not going in 5 different manga sections to see if there is new pic. Anime design sheet? That's the very first images of each gallery... You don't even need to start, just open the gallery and bam, it's one of the first things you will see. Also majority of them are in "Appearance" section in the character's article, in the beginning of the gallery you can find more of them (if available).

99%? Where did you get that statistic? :>

So hitting "home" with clicks and scrolling/pageup/down is easy, but using only the scroll or page up/down is not? Nor using the ToC of the gallery, I see...

I can't find a pic I want in OP wiki. And the search bar is not helping.

Have I said such thing? I cannot express my opinion? Do I have to see only the good sides of all, and not the bad sides? Just because I don't see only good sides of it, it means I want to remove it? I mentioned that the tabber is not so perfect like it's in your eyes, and removing the fight images, makes another mess, and having so many sections is not easy for navigation, since you have to go and switch them (add the fight galleries to make things even harder). I didn't say we need to remove it, I still like it and I don't mind staying, but I'm not seeing only the benefits of it. Nor I was trying to say you should do what I say. You wanted discussion, or you wanted only praises? If you want to know what are for me the most useless and unneeded things for this wiki, my top 3 picks are (in random order): 1. Magazine ToC (because the ToC don't have any value like in Jump, and the covers 99% of the time don't feature nanatsu, but other series); 2. Fight articles (half of those I can't even call fights, and since you all are moved by "it's repeated info, we don't need it on 2 places", having those in the plot section of the character, makes this useless); 3. Achievements (the wiki is not about competition, nor who have more edits, and no one should be moved by such thing when editing, it also have bad effect, I'm seeing people doing daily small cosmetic edits, just to keep their "each day edit thing" or adding 10 pics to a gallery with 10 edits in 5 minutes, which just spams the recent changes page, making it harder to keep up with all edits). Although none of those I feel so desperate to want it removed, since they are not in my way (except maybe the achievements, since in a way results in clogging the recentchanges from people who try to make points).

In short, I do see good and bad sides of Toriko Wiki, but I do see good and bad sides of Nanatsu Wiki gallery too.

What I'm against is making the galleries that useless, but if that's all you want, go ahead.

At least all the character fights should be mentioned and linked in each character's article, so that the new users to have bigger chance to know for their existence when checking the character page and gallery.