Talk:Estarossa/@comment-2601:87:4101:920C:396A:9D4C:CCD8:675C-20180203190125/@comment-149.125.47.252-20180205151457

Okay so based on feats alone Estarossa is stronger than Zeldris. Zeldris has higher magic power which does make his PL higher (you also have to ask if his 61,000 includes the demon kings power because if it doesn't than Estarossa clearly isn't at 60,000 anymore).

Also the seal hurt their magic power (I believe), not their strength or spirit, which a lot of them don't even have magic power higher than 5k to begin with. There is no indication that they aren't as strong as they 3000 years ago, since they have pretty much recovered their magic since they've been using it left to right.

If you compared feats from the past to now I would love to hear them.