Talk:Ludociel/@comment-24070327-20190124204438/@comment-24070327-20190125015702

But that wasn't my statement though, it was my proof. I was just pointing out that Ludo seems a lot stornger without his vessel than with and then used the fact that the Original needs Climax to fight him as proof. Cause, otherwise, the Original would not need Climax. Considering the fact that Vessel Ludo was having problems with Cussack.

The fact that the Original needs Climax at all, whereas a piece of the Original did not, is my proof that Ludo is stronger outside of a vessel than in. It's not a point I'm trying to make. It's the proof to my claim.